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  • nppangband
    NPPAngband Maintainer
    • Dec 2008
    • 926

    #16
    Originally posted by Magnate
    .....and with better UI.
    On that note, what I am currently working on for NPP is getting the FAAngband-style mouse support working with NPP (which is currently aligned with the Angband 3.1.2v2 base code). When I am done it will go up on github as a single commit,which would probably be a good start for a ui-enhancing patch for Vanilla if the V devteam is interested. Isn't there already a ticket for FAAngband mouse support for vanilla?
    NPPAngband current home page: http://nppangband.bitshepherd.net/
    Source code repository:
    https://github.com/nppangband/NPPAngband_QT
    Downloads:
    https://app.box.com/s/1x7k65ghsmc31usmj329pb8415n1ux57

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    • Magnate
      Angband Devteam member
      • May 2007
      • 5110

      #17
      Originally posted by nppangband
      On that note, what I am currently working on for NPP is getting the FAAngband-style mouse support working with NPP (which is currently aligned with the Angband 3.1.2v2 base code). When I am done it will go up on github as a single commit,which would probably be a good start for a ui-enhancing patch for Vanilla if the V devteam is interested. Isn't there already a ticket for FAAngband mouse support for vanilla?
      Lots of them: #115, #183, #425, #618 ... it's been a goal for a long time, so I'm sure a patch which makes it easier to incorporate your/Nick's work would be much appreciated. ISTR Nick has updated to the 3.2.0 codebase - unfortunately there were some more input layer changes in 3.3, but nothing major since then.
      "Been away so long I hardly knew the place, gee it's good to be back home" - The Beatles

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      • dos350
        Knight
        • Sep 2010
        • 546

        #18
        glad 2 see another 3.12v2 fanatic in this thread,

        the game is getting better in good ways ok, and it is great work, but nn2 think uve solved all the games problems and then change it afterward 2 suite that~ aka regain stat on lvl up.

        personally , i rofl at this new mechanic, its ez 2 abuse and also more tedious than potion, even if they r not at store, why not just hav both?

        other examples i could giv but dnt think needing, please try 2 understand the point of this thread and not hijack it 4 ur own glory
        ~eek

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        • nppangband
          NPPAngband Maintainer
          • Dec 2008
          • 926

          #19
          Originally posted by Magnate
          Lots of them: #115, #183, #425, #618 ... it's been a goal for a long time, so I'm sure a patch which makes it easier to incorporate your/Nick's work would be much appreciated. ISTR Nick has updated to the 3.2.0 codebase - unfortunately there were some more input layer changes in 3.3, but nothing major since then.
          Nick and I have traded a couple messages about it. He had to remove most of his mouse support to get FAAngband working with the 3.2.0 codebase, & he hasn't yet added it back in. I am converting the mouse support from the last FA version that had it working, so he might be taking a look at that NPP commit as well.

          My commit probably won't resemble a working patch for Vanilla because the 3.1.2v2 codebase is so different than the current one, but it should be a relatively simple cut-and-paste job with minimal de-bugging as long as buttons.c hasn't changed much.
          NPPAngband current home page: http://nppangband.bitshepherd.net/
          Source code repository:
          https://github.com/nppangband/NPPAngband_QT
          Downloads:
          https://app.box.com/s/1x7k65ghsmc31usmj329pb8415n1ux57

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          • Magnate
            Angband Devteam member
            • May 2007
            • 5110

            #20
            Originally posted by nppangband
            My commit probably won't resemble a working patch for Vanilla because the 3.1.2v2 codebase is so different than the current one, but it should be a relatively simple cut-and-paste job with minimal de-bugging as long as buttons.c hasn't changed much.
            Ah, well that's good news - button.c has had only three new lines since 2008, so things are looking good.
            "Been away so long I hardly knew the place, gee it's good to be back home" - The Beatles

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            • nppangband
              NPPAngband Maintainer
              • Dec 2008
              • 926

              #21
              Originally posted by Magnate
              Ah, well that's good news - button.c has had only three new lines since 2008, so things are looking good.
              :::checks github::: Yep, I noticed the same issue, and wrote practically the exact same 3 lines of code to fix it. So we should be OK.
              NPPAngband current home page: http://nppangband.bitshepherd.net/
              Source code repository:
              https://github.com/nppangband/NPPAngband_QT
              Downloads:
              https://app.box.com/s/1x7k65ghsmc31usmj329pb8415n1ux57

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              • dos350
                Knight
                • Sep 2010
                • 546

                #22
                please, keep on topic
                ~eek

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                • Derakon
                  Prophet
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9022

                  #23


                  Just give it up, dude. Topics go where they want to, and you have about as much control over them as anyone else does (i.e. very little).

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                  • dos350
                    Knight
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 546

                    #24
                    rofl did u make that pic urself?, anyway ok i can see that people want 2 cry and rage its ok, topic is open 4 discussion if neone is serious ~~~
                    ~eek

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                    • Derakon
                      Prophet
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9022

                      #25
                      Sadly no, I didn't make it. I thought of the idea, then thought "Somebody's already made this", and Google Image Search proved me right.

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                      • Timo Pietilä
                        Prophet
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4096

                        #26
                        Originally posted by dos350
                        i see it getting better in some ways, but worse in others,

                        also i see people crying 2 make it worse, which i think is entirely inappropriate~
                        Do yourself a favor and learn to distinguish harder from worse.

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                        • dos350
                          Knight
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 546

                          #27
                          rofl timo, in my opinion the game isnt harder than it was when i started, in 3.12v2

                          i played that version more than 3.2 and 3.3 combined id say, and that is alot.

                          the game has infact become easier imo, for some following reasons:

                          stat restore/ lvl = easy 2 abuse, aka drain urself.
                          negative (-x, -x) isnt around anymore on magic items, or its very rare, so ez 2 get item.
                          lvl feelings now show everytime, even if u scum terribly on the stairs

                          and much more, so tell me? are u angband devs not blinded by ur work?
                          ~eek

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                          • Timo Pietilä
                            Prophet
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4096

                            #28
                            Originally posted by dos350
                            rofl timo, in my opinion the game isnt harder than it was when i started, in 3.12v2
                            So stop complaining every time someone suggest a change that would make game harder.

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                            • nppangband
                              NPPAngband Maintainer
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 926

                              #29
                              Try Angband 2.8.3. That version went unchanged for years. If you can live without mouse support it offers plenty of entertainment and challenge.
                              NPPAngband current home page: http://nppangband.bitshepherd.net/
                              Source code repository:
                              https://github.com/nppangband/NPPAngband_QT
                              Downloads:
                              https://app.box.com/s/1x7k65ghsmc31usmj329pb8415n1ux57

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                              • dos350
                                Knight
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 546

                                #30
                                i dont complain at change that make game harder, only change that game worse, more annoying 2 play etc
                                ~eek

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