Summoning Speculations

[artes]

While I'm at it I've added a monster spell that creates a trap where the monster is standing. Critters only use it when you're out of sight. Sneaky little (&*@*(s. (Particularly annoying if you'd already detected traps in the area and assumed it was safe).

That's great!

[fizzix]

I don't think confusion is wasted. If the monster hits with confusion every turn, the player has to quaff a potion every turn, and can't do much else except teleporting away or something. I just died in the Chengband competition because of confusion.

Hits with confusion is much different than casting a confusion spell. I meant the spell, although, I could see the argument to extend the 'powerful' ability to atlas or maybe thuringwethil. (I think she hits to confuse)

[buzzkill]

DaJ has monsters that 'confuse powerfully', that is they can bypass your confusion resistance. They are deep, maybe native to DL100+, not real sure, and I don't know if they 'confuse powerfully' every time or only once in a while. Once you're aware of it, it's manageable, but figuring it out is a harrowing experience.

[Derakon]

Given that I've spent a lot of time in the depths without any confusion or blindness resistance, I don't think it'd be a huge deal to let those resistances be bypassable...but handling user expectations will be important. Up to now they've always been 100%, and it'd be rather shocking to a newbie to be annoyed by all this confusion and blindness, find a source of resistance, have it work 100%, and then suddenly have it stop working later.

Maybe call it "unresistable confusion" or something, just to be really blatant about what's going on.

[Magnate]

Given that I've spent a lot of time in the depths without any confusion or blindness resistance, I don't think it'd be a huge deal to let those resistances be bypassable...but handling user expectations will be important. Up to now they've always been 100%, and it'd be rather shocking to a newbie to be annoyed by all this confusion and blindness, find a source of resistance, have it work 100%, and then suddenly have it stop working later.

Maybe call it "unresistable confusion" or something, just to be really blatant about what's going on.

I really don't like unresistable stuff. I can just about cope with things like time/mana/gravity/force being unresistable (because they have always been so), but I really really don't like the idea of something which was resistable becoming unresistable or growing an unresistable sibling. Ugh.

[Netbrian]

I really don't like unresistable stuff. I can just about cope with things like time/mana/gravity/force being unresistable (because they have always been so), but I really really don't like the idea of something which was resistable becoming unresistable or growing an unresistable sibling. Ugh.

I second this.

[will_asher]

I really don't like unresistable stuff. I can just about cope with things like time/mana/gravity/force being unresistable (because they have always been so), but I really really don't like the idea of something which was resistable becoming unresistable or growing an unresistable sibling. Ugh.

I really don't like how most status effects are a complete non-issue once you find the resistance. paralysis, slowing (most forms at least), confusion, blindness, invisibility -all of these become irrelevant once you have the resistance (or see invisible in that case). I think that removes a whole level from the late part of the game. The monsters hate it too.

[Derakon]

Random thought: you could replace the current See Invisible with a variant form of infravision, allowing you to see invisible monsters within a certain number of squares of your position. The existing SI would then basically be subsumed by telepathy.

...wow, this is way off the original topic.

[EpicMan]

Rather than a secondary form of confusion that was irresistible, I would like to see the protections act like Hold Life used to, as in, most of the time the effect would not hurt you, or if it did it was greatly hampered.

My thought on pConf working like this would be a 90% chance of ignoring the effect, 10% chance of 1 turn of confusion. So the protection mostly prevents confusion, and getting confused while protected only costs you one turn (one turn because that alleviates the need to carry consumables for recovering from confusion; if it lasts more than 1 turn even occasionally players will need to chug a !ccw or some such every time they are confused).

[Magnate]

Rather than a secondary form of confusion that was irresistible, I would like to see the protections act like Hold Life used to, as in, most of the time the effect would not hurt you, or if it did it was greatly hampered.

My thought on pConf working like this would be a 90% chance of ignoring the effect, 10% chance of 1 turn of confusion. So the protection mostly prevents confusion, and getting confused while protected only costs you one turn (one turn because that alleviates the need to carry consumables for recovering from confusion; if it lasts more than 1 turn even occasionally players will need to chug a !ccw or some such every time they are confused).

Ugh. I like unreliable resists even less than I like unresistable effects. Ugh.