YACD - HE ranger - grinding time?

[Timo Pietilä]

Critical hits are included in the displayed average damage/round.

You are right that bow damage was changed to per round in order to be comparable with melee damage at a glance. We figured that people would want that more often than they'd want to know the damage per shot, and since you only ever have a whole number of shots, it's not that hard to divide by 2 or 3 in your head.

I find multiplying a lot easier than dividing. Just saying.

[ChodTheWacko]

I find multiplying a lot easier than dividing. Just saying.

Perhaps we should display both.

It would make it easier to figure out much extra damage you do when you see 'With +1 dex you go from 2.3 blows to 2.6 blows'

- Frank

[d_m]

Perhaps we should display both.

It would make it easier to figure out much extra damage you do when you see 'With +1 dex you go from 2.3 blows to 2.6 blows'

- Frank

This makes sense... I'll see if I can't find a way to fit both somehow.

[ChodTheWacko]

Woo hoo! I won!

End fight was pretty anticlimactic - Sauron was much harder since
he would either teleport away or summon really nasty stuff.
With morgoth you could just phase away and he'd follow you around, leaving his posse behind.

Thanks, everyone.

- Frank

[Timo Pietilä]

Woo hoo! I won!

End fight was pretty anticlimactic - Sauron was much harder since
he would either teleport away or summon really nasty stuff.

much harder == annoying pushover. Sauron is a joke compared to Morgoth. Only dangerous thing he can do is summon something that combined with Sauron ball spells is too hard to handle.

[bulian]

Congrats on the win. Like you, I've had several fights where S was harder than M. I used 8 *Heal* on the level I killed S compared to 3 vs. M in the last game I played.

Of course, I also dealt with the summons with S and probably ignored them with M. I think part of it is the favorable terrain M causes with his earthquakes that make phase effective. I guess you can use ASC vs S or fight in a destructed zone.

[Timo Pietilä]

Congrats on the win. Like you, I've had several fights where S was harder than M. I used 8 *Heal* on the level I killed S compared to 3 vs. M in the last game I played.

Of course, I also dealt with the summons with S and probably ignored them with M. I think part of it is the favorable terrain M causes with his earthquakes that make phase effective. I guess you can use ASC vs S or fight in a destructed zone.

Twisty corridor is enough. In my last game I killed him almost half-accidentally. Didn't mean to be at 4950', noticed that I'm that deep when I saw Sauron. I didn't need even ordinary healing against him. Vecna, Feagwath, Gothmog, Lungorthin, Tarrasque, Angel uniques, Carcharoth, Ancalagon are much worse opponents. Sauron feels like monster that should be somewhere around 3000', not 4500+'.


####### 1,2,3=spot where S can summon things. If you use rune/closed door
#1p@3.. behind you S can't summon there. Only spot 1 can see you at the same
#2##### time with S.
#.#

[Max Stats]

much harder == annoying pushover. Sauron is a joke compared to Morgoth. Only dangerous thing he can do is summon something that combined with Sauron ball spells is too hard to handle.

Yes and no. From an absolute power standpoint, Morgoth is many times harder than Sauron. However, when you fight Morgoth, you are willing to burn your whole stockpile of consumables that you have been saving for just this moment. Vs. Sauron, you are most likely still wanting to hold onto as much as possible and see if you can defeat him without using much if any of them. For this reason, I have found in many games that Sauron was a bigger challenge than Morgoth, at least for me.