Really Want To Fight Ancestors

[Derakon]

Back in the frog-knows days, yes, but they went out before Ben took over, so if you took them from old V source then you must've done a lot of updating to make the code work.

(I once got the Trident of Ulmo from a player ghost around 400' in frog-knows. That was a fun character)

[LostTemplar]

If I can get ghosts saved into the savefile properly

does not look like good idea, same as why high scores are not in savefile, ghosts should be stored separately.

[Philip]

But seriously, I would like to see them in V at least as an option(not likely).

[Nomad]

If I can get ghosts saved into the savefile properly

does not look like good idea, same as why high scores are not in savefile, ghosts should be stored separately.

Could you not pull ghost data from the high scores file? You've got a list of dead characters with race, class, clevel, dungeon level and final gold stored right there. (And even the cause of death, if you want to get really clever and generate the type of monster that made the kill along with the ghost.)

[d_m]

Could you not pull ghost data from the high scores file? You've got a list of dead characters with race, class, clevel, dungeon level and final gold stored right there. (And even the cause of death, if you want to get really clever and generate the type of monster that made the kill along with the ghost.)

I think you're right, but you also want to know whether that ghost has been seen before and/or killed before, and you may actually want to store more things on player death (e.g. items carried).

But certainly as a first pass it could be possible.

[Derakon]

You could mark the highscores file to indicate if a given character was ghost-eligible. Adding a bit to each entry doesn't seem like too bad a hack to me.

[d_m]

You could mark the highscores file to indicate if a given character was ghost-eligible. Adding a bit to each entry doesn't seem like too bad a hack to me.

That's a good point...it would also have the nice property that you could reduce the chance that a level 2 mage becomes a ghost (to avoid having dlvl 1 litered with howling ghosts and corpses of newbies)

[nppangband]

That's a good point...it would also have the nice property that you could reduce the chance that a level 2 mage becomes a ghost (to avoid having dlvl 1 litered with howling ghosts and corpses of newbies)

At least the way it is in NPP, player ghosts wouldn't appear that shallow. The earlist ghost has a dative depth of 300'. There is alot of special code to handle this (if you want to find the relevant code in NPP, grep the flag RF2_PLAYER_GHOST to see all the special handling they get throughout the source code)

[myshkin]

The earlist ghost has a dative depth of 300'.

I like the typo. "I give 300' this novice rogue ghost."

[tuppe666]

Having thought about it for a little while. I would rather the characters come back as undead at least in the early levels...and weakened, to be able to actually be invisible and go through walls seems very powerful especially on the early levels, but I so think it is important that you get as a portion of the items that you lost ammo excluded.

[Bodkin]

I like the typo. "I give 300' this novice rogue ghost."

Nicely played.

[Astaroth]

So much cool ideas... I like especially the different undead types... a noob character would either spawn as a Zangband-style pile of bones (I would really like to see that), or at most a skeleton or a zombie. When the level and the depth become higher, you have more chance to meet your older incarnations resurrected into higher forms of unlife!