A Question on the various weapons...

[Wisp]

Not being an old fan of Roguelikes... well... I 've liked Angband for several years, but I've had no experience beyoond that. How is weapon strength calculated. I've never been able to figure it out. Eg: You have a Whip (1d3) (+0,+0)

Also, how are *To Hit* Bonuses calculated. Thanks much.

[AR_chie]

whip (1d3) (+0,+0) can damage monster in range from 1 to 3... there was a site with calculator for V weapons, but today I see 404 (Pav take a look at this).

[Daven_26d1]

Not being an old fan of Roguelikes... well... I 've liked Angband for several years, but I've had no experience beyoond that. How is weapon strength calculated. I've never been able to figure it out. Eg: You have a Whip (1d3) (+0,+0)

Also, how are *To Hit* Bonuses calculated. Thanks much.

These types of values and notation are more of a generic RPG thing than something unique to roguelikes.
For a better understanding of those values try pressing '?' within the game and actually reading the online help files... try the one called "attacking monsters".

Are you seriously telling me that in 'several years' you didn't bother to RTFM?!

[Kav]

The quick answer is one three-sided dice roll, with (+0 to-hit, and +0 to-damage)

[Wisp]

Actually, I HAVE read the manual. *Gasp* So from what I gather, for, say, a 4d4 weapon, the CPU rolls 4 imginary 4 sided dies and adds the damage together. eg, max of 16 dm., minimum of 4. I'm assuming that Dam is mitigated by AC. That leaves my second question. How are the +To Hit Bonuses calculated. I'm assuming it adds a percentage of accuracy, but I don't know what that is.

[pav]

there was a site with calculator for V weapons, but today I see 404 (Pav take a look at this).

Yup, it's gone. I just removed the link.

[tigen]

edit: nevermind

[Big Al]

Hugo's spoilers site gives quite a detailed description on how +ToHit effects the chance of hitting:

http://www.juti.nl/hugo/Angband/Spoiler/attack.spo

(see the "CALCULATING THE PROBABILITY OF SUCCESSFULLY LANDING A BLOW" seciton)

[Daven_26d1]

whip (1d3) (+0,+0) can damage monster in range from 1 to 3... there was a site with calculator for V weapons, but today I see 404 (Pav take a look at this).

People would perhaps like one of these again? Can anyone tell me roughly what sort of interface was used and what kind of output was given; for instance did it break stuff down more completely, like in ToME, or was it just a min/max/average sort of affair? Was it spoiled?

I have not much to do next week and I might just be bored enough to get one up and riunning, assuming its desirable. I normally just work out damages etc in my head - comes with always having been the GM when I was younger!

[takkaria]

People would perhaps like one of these again? Can anyone tell me roughly what sort of interface was used and what kind of output was given; for instance did it break stuff down more completely, like in ToME, or was it just a min/max/average sort of affair? Was it spoiled?

I'm not sure exactly what it was either, but yesterday I added some code to the next version of Angband (not the bugfix) so that examining an object tells you the average damage you'll get with it, complete with changes because of slays and such.

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[pav]

It was written in Javascript, so completely client-side. You entered XdY (+a,+b), it calculated min, max and average. Quite simple script.

OTOH, don't let that get in your way of writing the ultimate damage calculator

[Skeeblix]

Excellent idea. doing all the math in my head gets tedious after awhile. It'd be great to be able to get a look at the average damage done without having to calculate it out when there are things to be done and epic itamz to be got.

[AR_chie]

BTW I have a question from the same format - when I wielding a weapon which causes for example fire damage and slay evil - against evil creature without fire proof which damage will be calculated?

quotation from spoiler:

Weapon of Burning
A magical weapon of fire that will inflict two times the normal
damage when used against a creature that is not resistant to fire.

Weapon of Slay Evil
This weapon is especially effective against evil creatures and will
do 1.7 times the normal damage against such creatures.

TIA

[Hugo]

quotation from spoiler:

Weapon of Burning
A magical weapon of fire that will inflict two times the normal
damage when used against a creature that is not resistant to fire.

Weapon of Slay Evil
This weapon is especially effective against evil creatures and will
do 1.7 times the normal damage against such creatures.

What spoiler file did you read this in, and where did you find it? It's either seriously outdated, or for a variant. Current (mostly) spoiler files for vanilla can be found on my spoiler site; see my sig for the URL.

Anyway, to answer your question - in Vanilla, if more than one brand, slay, or *slay* applies, the highest damage multiplicator is used and the others are disregarded.

[AR_chie]

spoiler is from Z 2.7.2,

thx for answer