Angband (or variant) Feature Suggestion Poll/Feedback thread

[Pete Mack]

pav came out against:

F016 0 "Get rid of magic mushroom patches. Completely."

I have to say, I agree with his vote, though not enough to change any of mine. The really pointless mushroom is memory moss. It was preposterously annoying before the change to amnesia. Now it's just pointless--amnesia in a sessile monster without any dangerous attacks is absurd.

Now if Crebains had an amnesia attack, that would be something else... Outrageously scary.

EDIT: Note that I am NOT proposing upgrading Crebains!

[PaulBlay]

Feature request F029 "Merge mage and priest books" is actually quite interesting, and i think it seriously deserves a thread on it's own for discussion. I don't remember who presented it

PowerDiver (aka Eddie) suggested it.

[bebo]

Feature request F029 "Merge mage and priest books" is actually quite interesting, and i think it seriously deserves a thread on it's own for discussion. I don't remember who presented it, but with some caveats i support it. If the OP (of the feature) would like to start a threaad with the reasoning behind this i'd be sure to pop in and express my point of view.

[pav]

The 'R'est prompt is currently ...

Rest (0-9999), '!' for HP or SP, '*' for HP and SP, '&' as needed

Doesn't R! do what you want? (I haven't had occasion to check myself).

No, I want to have the prompt go like: (0-9999), '&', 'h', 's' (h for HP, s for SP). Same as in NPP or Ey, and possibly others where I submitted the patch

[PaulBlay]

Ok, my votes for Vanilla:

FOR
F028 +2 "Thieves should drop stolen gold when killed."
Quiver (NPP style)
Rest to full HP/SP not both (UI improvement)

AGAINST
F016 +1 "Get rid of magic mushroom patches. Completely."

The 'R'est prompt is currently ...

Rest (0-9999), '!' for HP or SP, '*' for HP and SP, '&' as needed

Doesn't R! do what you want? (I haven't had occasion to check myself).

New feature suggestsions:
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F031 +3 "NPP style quiver"

V2 from Pav(Originator); V3 from Donald Jonker; V1 from Dubtrain
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F032 +1 "Rest to full HP/SP not both"

(UI improvement)
V3 from Pav(Originator)
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There's been a lot of action since last night (don't worry, Pav, Donald and Dubtrain - your votes are in) notably the NPP style quiver seems very popular.

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Current voting lineup

F010 +5 "merge prayers dTraps & dStairs"
F013 +4 "improve mage sleep/confusion/slow/polymorph/wonder spells"
F002 +4 "Add player history to character dumps"
F007 +3 "Newbie command menu in Roguelike keyset"
F028 +3 "Thieves should drop stolen gold when killed."
F031 +3 "NPP style quiver"
F008 +3 "User friendly display of existing macro trigger keys and actions"
F009 +2 "Advanced macro handling with actions, not keypresses, shown"
F005 +1 "Update help for (f)ire and item"
F012 +1 "Macro command 'pause and accept direction/target'"
F017 +1 "Nerf zephyr hounds"
F023 +1 "add gold/object sales code from eddieband"
F024 +1 "add ID-by-trial system from eddieband"
F027 +1 "Add x,y and z to inventory list"
F029 +1 "Merge mage and priest books"
F030 +1 "Birthday presents for all"
F032 +1 "Rest to full HP/SP not both"
F016 0 "Get rid of magic mushroom patches. Completely."
F018 0 "Change 'append macros to file' into four options:"
F015 0 "Slightly reduce natural depth of scrolls of acquirement"
F020 (Oook) 0 "Add a 'Feature requests' section to the forum"
F022 0 "Run-stop centring when monster in sight"
F025 0 "add some of the ego lanterns from NPP"
F026 0 "make (ego) shot slightly more common deep in the dungeon"
F011 0 "Add stealth as a stat"
F019 -2 "Naturally increasing stats, no stat potions"
F006 -2 "Store pre-order system"
F001 -3 "Remove charisma."
F003 N/A "Combine points-based with standard roller"
F004 N/A "Context sensitive help for inventory / equipment"
F014 N/A "monsters waking up shouldn't act right away"
F021 N/A "Strengthen mage and priest charm spells"

If you want your votes reassigned (or if you notice any mistakes I've made) please ask.
All users are being given '3 votes for, 1 vote against' to use. If a request reaches +10 I will attempt to code a patch for it.

[Dubtrain]

Wow, so many choices...

F[unknown] : +1 for NPP-style quiver - this has always struck me as an obvious V update.

F008 : +1 for display of existing macros and keymaps / macro UI update

F002 : +1 for add player history to char dump

Related to F022 (run-stop centering when monster in sight), I seem to remember that the screen used to re-center a little more "liberally" (i.e. before @ gets too close to the edge of the screen) - this seems like a pretty easy tweak. I'm always entering half-seen rooms these days, and I didn't used to quite as much.

[Donald Jonker]

Quiver (NPP style)

Paul, if you would kindly take my vote from the Notes Patch request and put it towards the quiver system. Many thanks.

[pav]

Ok, my votes for Vanilla:

FOR
F028 +2 "Thieves should drop stolen gold when killed."
Quiver (NPP style)
Rest to full HP/SP not both (UI improvement)

AGAINST
F016 +1 "Get rid of magic mushroom patches. Completely."

[PaulBlay]

Birthday presents - Whenever you level up or at certain level intervals you get birthday presents. These could be items that show up in the home or get generated next to you when you level, whichever is easier on the coding. It would not be anything game breaking but just something kinda nice, perhaps speed potions or indentify scrolls or enchantment scrolls, tele scrolls or tele lvl, maybe heal potions or CCW. The kind of thing that almost everyone needs or uses. It could even include stat increases though those should be kinda rare.

How about making it turn based? That's the nearest thing there is to time in Vanilla Angband (as far as I know). Some variants track days / hours passed but I don't think Angband does.

[Jungle_Boy]

Take my vote off the macro options and vote for this instead.

Birthday presents - Whenever you level up or at certain level intervals you get birthday presents. These could be items that show up in the home or get generated next to you when you level, whichever is easier on the coding. It would not be anything game breaking but just something kinda nice, perhaps speed potions or indentify scrolls or enchantment scrolls, tele scrolls or tele lvl, maybe heal potions or CCW. The kind of thing that almost everyone needs or uses. It could even include stat increases though those should be kinda rare.

[PaulBlay]

F010 +4 "merge prayers dTraps & dStairs"
+1 for this, I also think that priest spells deserve a good looking over, there are several spells that are duplicates or very close, would be nice to have some more variety.

F013 +3 "improve mage sleep/confusion/slow/polymorph/wonder spells"
+1 here. I would say either improve or get rid of them, preferably improve.

F008 +2 "User friendly display of existing macro trigger keys and actions"
This would be kinda nice

F012 +1 "Macro command 'pause and accept direction/target'"
Again, kinda nice

F001 -2 "Remove charisma."
-1 here. I'm against this, I'd rather see it made more useful than gone.

F019 -2 "Naturally increasing stats, no stat potions"
Would be nice to have some naturally increasing stats but also have stat potions, maybe get an increase every 5 levels or something. That way gaining levels means more than just some extra HP. I would vote for this in that form, maybe make it a new request.

F006 -2 "Store pre-order system"
This would be really nice but it's perhaps more of a variant thing than Vanilla.

Hi Jungle_Boy, thanks for voting. I already have you as in favour of
F018 "Change 'append macros to file' into four options:"
so your votes will go for
F010 "merge prayers dTraps & dStairs" (vote for)
and for
F013 "improve mage sleep/confusion/slow/polymorph/wonder spells"
and against
F001 "Remove charisma." (vote against)

[Jungle_Boy]

F010 +4 "merge prayers dTraps & dStairs"
+1 for this, I also think that priest spells deserve a good looking over, there are several spells that are duplicates or very close, would be nice to have some more variety.

F013 +3 "improve mage sleep/confusion/slow/polymorph/wonder spells"
+1 here. I would say either improve or get rid of them, preferably improve.

F008 +2 "User friendly display of existing macro trigger keys and actions"
This would be kinda nice

F012 +1 "Macro command 'pause and accept direction/target'"
Again, kinda nice

F001 -2 "Remove charisma."
-1 here. I'm against this, I'd rather see it made more useful than gone.

F019 -2 "Naturally increasing stats, no stat potions"
Would be nice to have some naturally increasing stats but also have stat potions, maybe get an increase every 5 levels or something. That way gaining levels means more than just some extra HP. I would vote for this in that form, maybe make it a new request.

F006 -2 "Store pre-order system"
This would be really nice but it's perhaps more of a variant thing than Vanilla.

[PaulBlay]

Oh ... well in that case I am all for
F010 +3 "merge prayers dTraps & dStairs"

Done. F010 and F002 are now neck and neck.

[Rizwan]

Thanks for participating.

According to my records you still have one vote for coming.

Oh ... well in that case I am all for
F010 +3 "merge prayers dTraps & dStairs"

[PaulBlay]

For my remaining votes I would like to vote yes for
F028 +1 "Thieves should drop stolen gold when killed."
and no for

F001 -1 "Remove charisma."

Thanks for participating.

According to my records you still have one vote for coming.