help with my char

**tigpup** · January 28, 2009, 16:12

Nice looking character.

You probably want to find a good sling as a rogue, rather than the xBow.

Having res-Conf is certainly a bonus.

IMHO, res_blind is probably more important that res_poison at this depth, but that depends on how much you rely on your spells.

Your westy weapon isn't bad (nice #blows), but given that those nice gloves give you FA, you might want to look for something with a bit more OOMPH.

I might be tempted to carry more !CCW and some !Hero and/or ?bless.

How often have you used those rods of polymorph and probing? I've never found any good use for such things, compared to buff and escape consumables. Similar with rod_treasure. Why not use spell, it must have a low fail_rate by now?

-Neil.

**bebo** · January 28, 2009, 19:10

the two rods you've mentioned i've kept just for selling purposes, i dropped them as soon as i found better stuff; you are right about the spell fail rates, they are quite manageable by now (around 8% if i remember), i kept the rods of detection out of habit.

personally i've never found !Heroism and ?bless really that useful, fear isn't such a problem, and +12 to hit doesn't seem that big of a deal once you have decent equipment, or not?

why is the sling better? i seem to recall something about rogues being better at using them, but can't quite remember the exact bonuses

Alas, my poor char is now dead, slain by a great crystal drake; i never encountered it before, tried to tackle it, one breath and i'm dead ...

Thanks for the tips, i'll do better next time

btw i'm sure there is a better way to post a char dump without cluttering the whole thread, can someone give me a couple of pointers? thanks

[Angband 3.1.0 beta Character Dump]

Sex Male Age 115 STR: 18 +1 +2 +4 18/70
Race High-Elf Height 99 INT: 14 +3 +1 +2 18/20
Class Rogue Weight 197 WIS: 11 -1 -2 +5 13
Title Filcher Social Respected DEX: 17 +3 +3 +2 18/70
HP -91/241 Maximize Y CON: 16 +1 +1 +2 18/20
SP 29/41 CHR: 14 +5 -1 +3 18/30

Level 28 Armor [19,+86] Saving Throw 77%
Cur Exp 85913 Fight (+20,+16) Stealth Superb
Max Exp 85913 Melee (+33,+37) Fighting Heroic
Adv Exp 112500 Shoot (+44,+12) Shooting Heroic
MaxDepth 2250' (L45) Blows 2/turn Disarming 95%
Turns 814111 Shots 2/turn Magic Device Heroic
Gold 16489 Infra 40 ft Perception 1 in 12
Burden 167.1 lbs Speed 2 Searching 35%

You are the only child of a Telerin Archer. You have light grey eyes,
wavy black hair, and a fair complexion.

Acid:........+.... Confu:.........+...
Elec:........+.... Sound:.............
Fire:..+.....+.... Shard:.............
Cold:......+.+.... Nexus:...........+.
Pois:............. Nethr:.............
Fear:+............ Chaos:.............
Lite:........+...+ Disen:.............
Dark:............. S.Dig:.............
Blind:............. Feath:...........+.

PLite:.......+..... Aggrv:.............
Regen:............. Stea.:.......++....
Telep:............. Sear.:.............
Invis:+...........+ Infra:............+
FrAct:..........+.. Tunn.:.............
HLife:............. Speed:+............
ImpHP:............. Blows:.............
ImpSP:............. Shots:.+...........
Fear:............. Might:.............

[Last Messages]

> You sense the presence of buried treasure!
> You sense the presence of objects!
> You sense the presence of monsters!
> You have 24 Iron Shots (1d4) (+0,+0) {@f1} (q).
> The Iron Shot (1d4) (+0,+0) {@f1} hits the Great crystal drake.
> The Great crystal drake shrugs off the attack.
> You sense the presence of monsters!
> You have 23 Iron Shots (1d4) (+0,+0) {@f1} (q).
> The Iron Shot (1d4) (+0,+0) {@f1} hits the Great crystal drake.
> It was a good hit!
> The Great crystal drake shrugs off the attack.
> You sense the presence of monsters!
> The Great crystal drake breathes shards.
> You have been given a deep gash.
> You die.

Killed by a Great crystal drake.

[Character Equipment]

a) The Lance of Eorlingas (3d8) (+13,+21) (+2)
+2 strength, dexterity, speed.
Provides resistance to fear.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.
With this weapon, you would currently get 2 blows per round. Each
blow will do an average damage of 64 against evil creatures, 77.5
against orcs, 77.5 against trolls, and 50.5 against normal
creatures.
b) a Sling of Extra Shots (x2) (+24,+12) (+1)
+1 shooting speed.
c) an Engagement Ring of Flames [+14] {!!}
Provides resistance to fire.
Cannot be harmed by fire.
When activated, it grants fire resistance for d20+20 turns and cre
ates a fire ball of damage 80.
It takes d50+50 turns to recharge after use.
d) a Jasper Ring of Slaying (+6,+4)
e) a Bone Amulet of Wisdom (+2)
+2 wisdom.
Sustains wisdom.
f) a Lantern (Everburning)
Cannot be harmed by fire.
Radius 2 light. No fuel required.
g) Soft Leather Armour of Resist Cold [4,+7]
Provides resistance to cold.
Cannot be harmed by cold.
h) a Cloak of the Magi [1,+13] (+2)
+2 intelligence, stealth.
Cannot be harmed by acid.
Sustains intelligence.
Radius 1 light.
i) a Small Metal Shield of Elvenkind [4,+16] (+1 stealth)
+1 stealth.
Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, light.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
j) The Metal Cap of Thengel [3,+12] (+3)
+3 wisdom, charisma.
Provides resistance to confusion.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
k) The Set of Leather Gloves 'Cambeleg' (+8,+8) [1,+15] (+2)
+2 strength, constitution.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Prevents paralysis.
l) a Pair of Steel Shod Boots of Stability [6,+6]
Provides resistance to nexus.
Feather Falling.

[Character Inventory]

a) 2 Books of Magic Spells [Magic for Beginners] {@m1@b1}
b) 2 Books of Magic Spells [Conjurings and Tricks] {@m2@b2}
c) 2 Books of Magic Spells [Incantations and Illusions] {@m3@b3}
d) 2 Books of Magic Spells [Sorcery and Evocations] {@m4@b4}
e) 16 Dark Green Potions of Cure Critical Wounds
f) 4 Scrolls titled "depio lemormo" of Teleportation
g) 4 Scrolls titled "incus ado mis" of Word of Recall {!*}
h) a Zinc-Plated Rod of Fire Bolts {@z3}
i) a Silver Rod of Frost Bolts {@z1!!}
j) a Molybdenum Rod of Acid Bolts {@z2!!}
k) an Iron Wand of Fire Bolts (9 charges)
l) 3 Ivory Wands of Teleport Other (6 charges)
m) 3 Teak Staffs of Mapping (9 charges)
n) 3 Hawthorn Staffs of Teleportation (21 charges)
o) 2 Silver Staffs of Identify (6 charges)
p) 10 Iron Shots of Wounding (1d4) (+13,+10)
Fired from your current missile launcher, this arrow will hit targets
up to 100 feet away, inflicting an average damage of 49 against
normal creatures.
25% chance of breaking upon contact.
q) 23 Iron Shots (1d4) (+0,+0) {@f1}
Fired from your current missile launcher, this arrow will hit targets
up to 100 feet away, inflicting an average damage of 29 against
normal creatures.
25% chance of breaking upon contact.

[Home Inventory]

a) 2 Pink Potions of Healing {!*}
When ingested, it heals you a really large amount (35% of max HP,
minimum 300HP), heals cut damage, and cures stunning, poisoning, b
lindness, and confusion.
Provides nourishment for about 100 turns under normal conditions.
b) 3 Yellow Speckled Potions of *Healing* {!*}
When ingested, it restores 1200 hit points, heals cut damage, and
cures stunning, poisoning, blindness, and confusion.
It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
c) 2 Azure Potions of Restore Mana {!*}
When ingested, it restores your mana points to maximum.
d) a Crimson Potion of Enlightenment
When ingested, it completely lights up and magically maps the leve
l.
e) a Metallic Green Potion of Speed {!*}
When ingested, it hastens you for 2d10+20 turns.
f) 7 Scrolls titled "depio lemormo" of Teleportation
When read, it teleports you randomly up to 100 squares away.
g) 3 Scrolls titled "tendo glabdus" of Teleport Level {!*}
When read, it teleports you one level up or down.
h) a Pine Staff of Curing (6 charges)
When used, it heals cut damage, and cures all stunning, poison, bl
indness and confusion.
i) a Mahogany Staff of Speed (6 charges) {!*}
When used, it hastens you for 2d10+20 turns.
j) a Ruby Ring of Damage (+0,+9)
k) a Main Gauche of Westernesse (1d5) (+12,+10) (+2)
+2 strength, dexterity, constitution.
Prevents paralysis.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.

With this weapon, you would currently get 4 blows per round. Each
blow will do an average damage of 35 against orcs, 35 against
trolls, 35 against giants, and 29 against normal creatures.
l) a Long Sword (Holy Avenger) (2d5) (+16,+13) [+2] (+2)
+2 wisdom.
Provides resistance to fear.
Sustains wisdom.
Blessed by the gods.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.

With this weapon, you would currently get 3 blows per round. Each
blow will do an average damage of 40 against evil creatures, 46
against demons, 46 against undead, and 34 against normal creatures.
m) The Pike 'Til-i-arc' (2d5) (+10,+12) [+10] (+2)
+2 intelligence.
Provides resistance to fire, cold.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Sustains intelligence.
Slows your metabolism.

With this weapon, you would currently get 3 blows per round. Each
blow will do an average damage of 45 against trolls, 45 against
giants, 45 against demons, 45 against fire-vulnerable creatures,
45 against frost-vulnerable creatures, and 33 against normal
creatures.
n) a Lance of Fury (2d8) (+16,+16) (+2)
+2 strength, attack speed.
Provides resistance to fear.
Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
Aggravates creatures nearby.

With this weapon, you would currently get 4 blows per round. Each
blow will do an average damage of 41 against normal creatures.
o) a Long Bow of Extra Might (x3) (+6,+10) (+1)
+1 shooting power.

p) a Heavy Crossbow of Extra Might (x4) (+8,+7) (+1)
+1 shooting power.

q) 18 Arrows of Slay Animal (1d4) (+9,+4)

[Options]

Maximize effect of race/class bonuses : yes (adult_maximize)
Randomize some of the artifacts (beta) : no (adult_randarts)
Restrict the use of stairs/recall : no (adult_ironman)
Restrict the use of stores/home : no (adult_no_stores)
Restrict creation of artifacts : no (adult_no_artifacts)
Don't stack objects on the floor : no (adult_no_stacking)
Lose artifacts when leaving level : no (adult_no_preserve)
Don't generate connected stairs : no (adult_no_stairs)
Adult: Monsters chase current location : yes (adult_ai_sound)
Adult: Monsters chase recent locations : yes (adult_ai_smell)
Adult: Monsters act smarter in groups : yes (adult_ai_packs)
Adult: Monsters learn from their mistakes : no (adult_ai_learn)
Adult: Monsters exploit players weaknesses : no (adult_ai_cheat)
Adult: Monsters behave more intelligently (broken): no (adult_ai_smart)
Score: Peek into object creation : no (score_peek)
Score: Peek into monster creation : no (score_hear)
Score: Peek into dungeon creation : no (score_room)
Score: Peek into something else : no (score_xtra)
Score: Know complete monster info : no (score_know)
Score: Allow player to avoid death : no (score_live)

**Pete Mack** · January 28, 2009, 19:28

That sling is arguably better than the XBow because it does a little more damage and hits quite a bit more often; on the downside it takes more and heavier ammo.

That said, the advice "rogues should use slings" is for some variants, not for Vanilla.

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Too bad about the crystal drake. That kind of thing is one reason diving fast is good. You won't waste hours and hours getting to 2000', just to get killed a little while later.

+to_hit is NOT LINEAR. Against high-AC monsters, it can make a huge difference, depending on your character. But I agree, !Heroism is the first thing I do without, if I am overloaded. Later you will get the spells, and those are certainly worth using.

In the future, RElec and RAcid would be good. At that depth an AMHD can kill you with any unresisted elemental breath.

Edit: and do stay away from mages until you are getting beyond 2500' reliably. They are incredibly fragile until very late in the game. It's a lot easier to learn with a Rogue.

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