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  • Djabanete
    Knight
    • Apr 2007
    • 576

    #16
    Same story as HallucinationMushroom, I started with Moria and ASCII always just felt right.

    When I picked up DCSS, though, tiles were the default, and I found it easy to play with them. I expect it's just a matter of what you're used to.

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    • Talharim
      Apprentice
      • Jul 2015
      • 57

      #17
      Originally posted by Djabanete
      Same story as HallucinationMushroom, I started with Moria and ASCII always just felt right.

      When I picked up DCSS, though, tiles were the default, and I found it easy to play with them. I expect it's just a matter of what you're used to.
      Same here! I can’t bring myself to play Angband with tiles but played DCSS with them without any qualms.

      I wonder if it’s just habit or if the big picture is more important in Angband.
      Cowards live a long time, brave ones usually die soon of a glorious death.

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      • PopTart
        Apprentice
        • May 2017
        • 89

        #18
        I use ASCII tiles. Graphic tiles existed when I started playing, but I had already gotten used to ASCII by playing Rogue and Ancient Domains of Mystery in the 90's. The letters feel familiar and comfortable and readable. If a game has that option, I take it, although now with the Steam release of Dwarf Fortress I've finally started with graphics because of how much pains they've taken to make the tiles readable.

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        • gglibertine
          Adept
          • Dec 2007
          • 234

          #19
          I started with ASCII. I still use it, because to use tiles I'd have to blow things up to the point where I only had a tiny bit of the map on screen, otherwise I wouldn't be able to tell what I was looking at.

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          • Egavactip
            Swordsman
            • Mar 2012
            • 442

            #20
            I started with Moria on the Amiga over 30 years ago, so it had graphics. I would never have started playing Angband if it were AS
            CII only--that doesn't appeal to me one IOTA. I don't type in programs and store them on a cassette tape anymore, and I don't play ASCII games.

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            • Huqhox
              Adept
              • Apr 2016
              • 145

              #21
              I first played Larn then Moria on Unix systems and Rogue on (DOS) PCs going back about 35 years now (boy does that make me feel old)

              I've had periods when I've played with various tilesets but there's something about the simple ASCII presentation that tile's can't beat. Plus you can see a lot more of the level on the screen. But tiles look good.

              So I'm kind of both but with ASCII having the edge
              "This has not been a recording"

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              • Ingwe Ingweron
                Veteran
                • Jan 2009
                • 2129

                #22
                Originally posted by Bill Peterson
                I saw some ASCII/tiles trash talk on a recent thread and it brought back fond memories of vi/EMACS.

                If you chose to respond with an opinion, I'd like to know what you chose when you first started playing *band, and if you had a choice. I have a theory that we're all just creatures of habit and we prefer what we first started playing. I started with AngbandTk and have always preferred tiles. I've always suspected that the ASCII lovers spent their formative *band years playing that way and just don't want to give up their stick shift game.
                I started with tiles and after a couple years switched to ASCII as I found it provided information to my brain more quickly. So, at least in my case, your hypothesis fails.
                “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                • PopTart
                  Apprentice
                  • May 2017
                  • 89

                  #23
                  Shameless plug for my font, which you can download and see screenshots of here

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                  • smbhax
                    Swordsman
                    • Oct 2021
                    • 340

                    #24
                    Or both?

                    https://www.dafont.com/perfect-dos-vga-437.font , size 32

                    With .prf parameters matching this pattern:

                    Code:
                    feat:open floor:*:1:250
                    feat:pile of rubble:*:2:178
                    feat:magma vein:*:2:178
                    feat:quartz vein:*:9:176
                    feat:magma vein with treasure:*:3:178
                    feat:quartz vein with treasure:*:3:176
                    feat:granite wall:*:1:177
                    feat:permanent wall:*:1:177
                    feat:lava:*:4:178
                    copied from lib/customize/font-ibm.prf

                    My Angband videos

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                    • Sacksquatch
                      Apprentice
                      • Jun 2020
                      • 50

                      #25
                      Figured I'd post on this, even though the last post is July. Wut? It's still on the first page..

                      I'm a newer roguelike player. 4 years ago I didn't even know what Angband was lol. I started with tiles and liked them (especially David Gervais tiles).

                      Then I started playing on angband.live and got used to the ascii.

                      I still use both.
                      I appreciate ascii for how a simple letter and color can so quickly convey information.
                      I appreciate the tiles for their ability to get me a bit more immersed.

                      I use ascii the majority of the time.

                      For those who want to use tiles but find them too big, set the font to the smallest size you can still read, and then adjust the tiles width/height. Try different fonts to get a size you like.

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