Forging with the Sils

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  • Antoine
    Ironband/Quickband Maintainer
    • Nov 2007
    • 1010

    Forging with the Sils

    On the ascent, you should be able to forge the Sils to make epic but cursed jewelery.

    There are several instances of this in canon.

    A.
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  • half
    Knight
    • Jan 2009
    • 910

    #2
    Originally posted by Antoine
    On the ascent, you should be able to forge the Sils to make epic but cursed jewelery.

    There are several instances of this in canon.

    A.
    That would be very cool.

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    • Patashu
      Knight
      • Jan 2008
      • 528

      #3
      Would this lead to a good/'bad' ending system?
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      • Antoine
        Ironband/Quickband Maintainer
        • Nov 2007
        • 1010

        #4
        Originally posted by Patashu
        Would this lead to a good/'bad' ending system?
        Possibly.

        It seems weird, the more I think about it, that exiting with Sils is seen as a success, as possession of a Sil usually ended up disastrously for the person concerned. Look what happened to Maglor...

        A.
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        • Antoine
          Ironband/Quickband Maintainer
          • Nov 2007
          • 1010

          #5
          Originally posted by half
          That would be very cool.
          I haven't played the ascent - is it actually possible in practice to forge on the way up, or are there too many distractions with e.g. guys like Morgoth showing up?

          Could forging a Sil into a piece of jewelery be worth e.g. 1,000,000 points for the purposes of the ladder? [Edit: or some large number of points that depends on how well you forge?]

          A.
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          • Matoro
            Rookie
            • Mar 2014
            • 8

            #6
            Like Nauglafring? Yeah, that necklace only destroyed Doriath and the Havens of Sirion.

            Wouldn't possibility to forge your own Silmaril crown be awesome? I guess Morgoth's one is a bit too big for wearing, but a nice elf-sized crown with Silmarils embedded into it... So cool.

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            • debo
              Veteran
              • Oct 2011
              • 2402

              #7
              Originally posted by Antoine
              I haven't played the ascent - is it actually possible in practice to forge on the way up, or are there too many distractions with e.g. guys like Morgoth showing up?
              "It's simple -- we kill the bauglir"
              Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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              • BlueFish
                Swordsman
                • Aug 2011
                • 414

                #8
                Originally posted by Antoine
                I haven't played the ascent - is it actually possible in practice to forge on the way up, or are there too many distractions with e.g. guys like Morgoth showing up?
                A.
                Even if you killed morgoth the sheer quantity and relentlessness of the enemies on the ascent would make forging a huge headache and not fun. You'd have to re-start the process every 2 or 3 turns. Sort of like when an orc scout is near you when you're using the first forge, x 1000.

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                • debo
                  Veteran
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 2402

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BlueFish
                  Even if you killed morgoth the sheer quantity and relentlessness of the enemies on the ascent would make forging a huge headache and not fun. You'd have to re-start the process every 2 or 3 turns. Sort of like when an orc scout is near you when you're using the first forge, x 1000.
                  On the other hand, pretty much the most insane smithing character ever was made by Psi by heavily abusing forges on the ascent.

                  The ascent is really not bad at all if Morgoth is gone, imo.
                  Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                  • Antoine
                    Ironband/Quickband Maintainer
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1010

                    #10
                    I suppose you could forge a Necklace, Diadem, Circlet, or Sceptre... presumably they are too big to wear in a ring
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                    • debo
                      Veteran
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 2402

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Antoine
                      I suppose you could forge a Necklace, Diadem, Circlet, or Sceptre... presumably they are too big to wear in a ring
                      Or put them in a mithril greatsword and inscribe them as {materia}
                      Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                      • locus
                        Adept
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 165

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Antoine
                        It seems weird, the more I think about it, that exiting with Sils is seen as a success, as possession of a Sil usually ended up disastrously for the person concerned. Look what happened to Maglor...
                        But they're so shiny...

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