Stumped about the dump

[Bill Peterson]

I'm trying to learn something about how the better players allocate points/exp. by looking at dumps from the ladder meaning of the numbers eludes me. Stats I think I can decipher, I can see what looks like the starting allocation and I can assume the rest are equipment bonuses and purchased increases or temporary increases.

The skills display is the one that has me befuddled. On the dump I'm looking at now, named "elliptical" I don't see anything that looks like a starting allocation and there's a column of +7 to every skill.

Is there a decoder post somewhere? I've read the manual and quite a few posts here, and searched the forum for both "dump" and "character dump" with no joy.

[Psi]

There is nothing in the dump that records skill allocation other than the current values. Asking questions on the ladder dump or the forum is probably your best bet to finding out how players allocate for particular builds.

[Bill Peterson]

Thanks, but that's not really the question I was asking. There are plenty of posts about initial allocations and the dumps show the progression of abilities.

What I'm asking is what are the column descriptions of the columns of numbers making up the stat and skill totals.

Since posting I've experimented at character creation and looked at more dumps and think I've figured much of it out.

The 4 stats look to be made up of the initial allocation + equipment bonuses + I'm assuming stat boosts from abilities

The 8 skills look to be made up of amounts bought with experience + amounts from Dex and Grace + equipment effects? + I still don't know about the last column.

[taptap]

Thanks, but that's not really the question I was asking. There are plenty of posts about initial allocations and the dumps show the progression of abilities.

What I'm asking is what are the column descriptions of the columns of numbers making up the stat and skill totals.

Since posting I've experimented at character creation and looked at more dumps and think I've figured much of it out.

The 4 stats look to be made up of the initial allocation + equipment bonuses + I'm assuming stat boosts from abilities

The 8 skills look to be made up of amounts bought with experience + amounts from Dex and Grace + equipment effects? + I still don't know about the last column.

You are right for the stats. Temporary stat changes are in the last column as well, e.g. from potions, herbs of rage. For the skills you have proficiency/affinity bonus (blades, archery + 1 skill for elves, axes + 1 skill for naugrim etc.) or penalties in the last column together with ability/temporary effects like song of slaying bonus, versatility bonus, song of staying will bonus, song of aule smithing bonus, stealth modus modifier etc. Bonus that depends on the target or your own movement, isn't shown there but only in the combat roll window, i.e. assassination, focus, concentration modifiers.