Good finds you'd just as soon not find

[HallucinationMushroom]

Charge + flanking

I just build 'em different is all. Charge and flanking are expensive too once you've sunk power/followthrough/momentum/strpoint blocking/heavyarmormastery/crowdcontrol

[taptap]

If longbows suddenly become as viable as shortbows for melee dudes, I envision myself using throwing weapons less... I usually only use bows for insects and birds, and throwing for anything with real HP. (This is for elves -- dwarves and edain i end up favoring throwing just because it's hard to hit anything with +1 archery lol)

I don't understand this. Longbows are already better for melee dudes who put a few points into archery.

[BlueFish]

Had an interesting case recently. Found Celeg Aithorn, the 2 lb mithril longsword branded by lightning, surely one of the best weapons in the game. But I found it on my strength dwarf who by that time had managed to accumulate 6 strength - 5 natural, after the one from Melee tree, and one on gloves. I already had momentum but still 2 of my str were going to waste, so it was a bit of a disappointing find from that perspective. But not one I could just throw away since it was still doing 3d10 damage to monsters not resistant to lightning, along with built-in sharpness. (Is any monster resistant to lightning?)

But the obvious way to still maximize strength was to take Rapid attack, which subtracts 3 from str for each of the two attacks you get. It wasn't pleasant taking so much Stealth to get the only viable prereq, but I went to that length and by endgame was absolutely melting everything including Ns at 950.

I figured I'd finally win with this Belegost build, but to my dismay I discovered that Rapid Attack doesn't co-exist with Rage in the throneroom, and I was only getting one attack as far as I could tell, even against the monster I was directly targeting. Not sure if I was still being penalized Str and Dex. Sadly enough even with +10 from Slaying I eventually succumbed to being surrounded by critters. If I had the throne room to play over again I could probably beat it though, it was late and I wasn't paying enough attention. I think I forgot to drink my Con potions...

4 0 5 3 has opened up whole new possibilities with this str build though. Way better than one more Dex and one less Con. It's not even close really.

[Fendell Orcbane]

I don't understand this. Longbows are already better for melee dudes who put a few points into archery.

Longbows do so much more damage than short bows too. You can actually take molds out with them pretty quickly unlike short bows.

[debo]

Longbows do so much more damage than short bows too. You can actually take molds out with them pretty quickly unlike short bows.

I now inscribe all my early longbows with {Moldslayer}