Sil mechanics: effect of the number of silmarils

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  • fph
    Knight
    • Apr 2009
    • 956

    Sil mechanics: effect of the number of silmarils

    Some questions:

    1- what are the exact effects of having 1, 2, or 3 sils with you?
    2- what is the effect of killing Morgoth and carrying the crown?
    3- are these effects tied to carrying? In other words, if I am carrying 3 sils and I realize it's too hard, can I drop 2 to avoid further penalties? Can I drop them during a difficult fight and pick them up afterwards?
    4- what are the added difficulty effects of cutting off the 2nd and 3rd gem from the crown?

    Sorry for asking this, but I don't think I have read a complete account on this game mechanic yet.
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  • Scatha
    Swordsman
    • Jan 2012
    • 413

    #2
    Originally posted by fph
    1- what are the exact effects of having 1, 2, or 3 sils with you?
    One Silmaril lets you use up stairs and move into the escape/pursuit part of the game. If you have a second Silmaril, there are extra monsters generated on the pursuit. I don't recall whether a third Silmaril increases the monster count further.

    2- what is the effect of killing Morgoth and carrying the crown?
    You'll get the pursuit for having 3 Silmarils (nothing extra for having killed Morgoth). You don't have the curse for cutting the third Silmaril out.

    3- are these effects tied to carrying? In other words, if I am carrying 3 sils and I realize it's too hard, can I drop 2 to avoid further penalties? Can I drop them during a difficult fight and pick them up afterwards?
    I believe they're determined on level generation. You can leave a Silmaril behind to make the pursuit easier, but you won't be able to get it again later.

    4- what are the added difficulty effects of cutting off the 2nd and 3rd gem from the crown?
    Cutting the third jewel out curses you: make each skill roll twice and take the worse result. There is no way to undo this after it's done.

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    • HugoVirtuoso
      Veteran
      • Jan 2012
      • 1132

      #3
      Spoiler:
      Carrying the Crown also lets you use the up staircase too.
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      • fph
        Knight
        • Apr 2009
        • 956

        #4
        Thanks! One last thing: I read here in the forums that there is a chance of your weapon breaking when cutting sils; is it for all sils, only for the second/third, or only for the third? What helps preventing it?
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