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Comp 169 is up. It's an Angband 3.5.1 Human Ranger with birth options turned up to 11 
G L H F, and thanks to the devteam for a great release!!
G L H F, and thanks to the devteam for a great release!!
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Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.' -
i've been checking that site for new pages for 2 years.
i hope parenting hasn't cut it short.
and now back to repeated deaths in angband 3.5.1He did the mash.
He did the morgoth mash.
The morgoth mash.
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PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!Comment
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Oh boy, this comp sounds truly sadistic! I'm firing it up now!Comment
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Debo, I was just thinking that I may have screwed up. What's the ruling on prodigy characters? When Leon died and I opened the file to start again with Leon II, I used the old character. All starting stats are the same, but it is different than the original savefile in two respects: (1) knowledge gained by previous incarnation is retained; and (2) town is in a different configuration. Well, three respects if you count the character description change, but that has no gameplay effects.
Do I need to kill off Leon II and redownload the original savefile?“We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are DeadComment
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Nevermind. I just read Nick's sticky post on the competition rules and, yep, there it is. Can't use the birth process to start the new character. Leon II must die. I'm going to run him into the next monster and stand there, suicide by cop style.“We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are DeadComment
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I just caught up on this issue now -- IMO expecting players to abide by some sort of 'honor code' when we have no way to enforce it is kinda dumb.
In this comp, for example, the birth options are so damned hard that I can't see what rebirthing for convenience will really get you, unless you are startscumming -- which you would not be doing if you were following the more general rule of "don't be a jerk".
The same thing happened last poschengband comp, just because it's way more convenient to use the rebirth for some people than it is to recopy the file (and easy to forget!) and that has arguably a greater effect in that game because it rerolls your stat maxes, life rating, etc.
I might go update those rules, I honestly didn't even remember those existed. Thanks for taking the honorable route, but I'm sad to see that a good potential winner was suicided for trivialities
Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'Comment
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Two things:
1) Given how hard the comp is, how about extending the deadline to the end of the month? That would help a plodder like me, although I admit some might see that more as horribly prolonging a painful illness, rather than as extra time to meet a challenge
2) I'm of the opinion that the competition rules, for Vanilla at least, should continue to insist on restarting from the savefile, and not allow a rebirth. One thing that changes with a rebirth is that all 50 levels of Hit Dice get re-rolled, and the HP progression can have a significant effect on the character, especially in the early going. This doesn't happen with, say, Sil, but for Vanilla I think it is important.Comment
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“We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are DeadComment
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I must say that I kind of agree, but unless the game makes this less error-prone, I don't think "the noobs" should be punished for restarting. They weren't to know!Two things:
1) Given how hard the comp is, how about extending the deadline to the end of the month? That would help a plodder like me, although I admit some might see that more as horribly prolonging a painful illness, rather than as extra time to meet a challenge
2) I'm of the opinion that the competition rules, for Vanilla at least, should continue to insist on restarting from the savefile, and not allow a rebirth. One thing that changes with a rebirth is that all 50 levels of Hit Dice get re-rolled, and the HP progression can have a significant effect on the character, especially in the early going. This doesn't happen with, say, Sil, but for Vanilla I think it is important.
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“We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are DeadComment
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I wouldn't consider myself a noob, but not really a veteran either. I think I knew somewhere in the back of my mind that I should have re-copied the save file, but at the heat of the moment when I was dying I hurriedly started back up again and started diving.
This current character is absolutely an offender of rebirthing. He is in a pretty decent position to win the game, however (fortunately) not in position to win the comp. I think I'm already above PowerWyrm's winning turn count at dlvl 93. If the character ends up being a winner, I would be more than happy with considering it a non-competition character with ridiculous birth options.Comment
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End of the month seems like a really long time, but I'd be happy to bump the deadline to the end of next weekend. (I probably won't have my stuff together by then for the next comp anyways.)
I generally prefer not to do this since it can kinda screw over the winners, but given that PowerWyrm is currently winning a comp that is by his own design, I'm more open to it Unless I see any serious objections here in the next couple days, I'll extend the deadline to Sunday.
Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'Comment
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Second vote here for an extra weekend; I play slow
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