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  • debo
    Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 2402

    Comp 168

    Comp 167 still has a few more days left, but I've put up a preview of comp 168 for feedback / playtesting in case anyone wants to give it an early shot:



    It's a poschengband 3.4.2 possessor, with personality+stats a bit more oriented towards spellcasting than seems to be the norm for this class. Although that norm is heavily skewed by the sheer volume of Hugo's characters

    Don't consider the current savefile to be final, as I may tweak it if people have comments / complaints.

    G L H F in 2015 and beyond
    Last edited by debo; January 1, 2015, 20:32.
    Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'
  • Arjen
    Adept
    • Dec 2010
    • 241

    #2
    Hmmm another Ultimate Magus attempt in comp form, I love playing magic orientated mimics! Im in! (next year probably...)

    It's over 9000!!! =)
    Last edited by Arjen; December 31, 2014, 17:17.

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    • HugoVirtuoso
      Veteran
      • Jan 2012
      • 1237

      #3
      Nice...*super* nice. I'll probably give this a shot too..

      Edit: I just did a very short playtest. This run is going to be way harder than usual for...obviously because I exclusively play Melee Possessors. Lite town is a nice touch for the competition, even though I'd always want multiple dungeons (yeah, me and my biases). While I don't want to spoil it, I'd say that some late game Possessor choices are actually decent.
      Last edited by HugoVirtuoso; December 31, 2014, 17:55.
      My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

      If I'm offline I'm probably in the middle of maintaining Gentoo or something-Linux or other.

      As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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      • chris
        PosChengband Maintainer
        • Jan 2008
        • 702

        #4
        Originally posted by HugoTheGreat2011
        Nice...*super* nice. I'll probably give this a shot too..

        Edit: I just did a very short playtest. This run is going to be way harder than usual for...obviously because I exclusively play Melee Possessors. Lite town is a nice touch for the competition, even though I'd always want multiple dungeons (yeah, me and my biases). While I don't want to spoil it, I'd say that some late game Possessor choices are actually decent.
        You can still do melee if you must. I did a couple early start ups looking for bugs and what not, and can confirm that a melee build is doable!

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        • Arjen
          Adept
          • Dec 2010
          • 241

          #5
          Did some running too. The biggest 'problem' with the pure casters start is the lack of casters. Novice mage are great at the start but at lvl 10? you need to swap and around that level you just don't have common casters. Possessed some spiders/hounds/a lot of randomness until I found DEWs, who are just prefect ofcourse.

          Forms I used
          Dark elven warlock
          Air hound
          Chimera
          Air hound
          King Mulu, the Chief of Southerings
          Earth hound
          Fire hound
          Wutugu, the Chief of Southerings
          Swordsman
          Carnivorous flying monkey
          Cave spider
          Bandit
          Giant white mouse
          Raving lunatic
          Forgot the point I wanted to make: expect to die a few times.

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          • debo
            Veteran
            • Oct 2011
            • 2402

            #6
            Hugo: did you notice that i rolled a character that has a *guaranteed opportunity* of Combat Echizen just for you????
            Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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            • HugoVirtuoso
              Veteran
              • Jan 2012
              • 1237

              #7
              Originally posted by debo
              Hugo: did you notice that i rolled a character that has a *guaranteed opportunity* of Combat Echizen just for you????
              Yep, even though I'd prefer Wahha-Man on the list. At the same time, Combat-Echizen is still a great incentive.

              P.S. Compo 168 is about version 3.4.2? Yes?
              Last edited by HugoVirtuoso; January 1, 2015, 21:57.
              My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

              If I'm offline I'm probably in the middle of maintaining Gentoo or something-Linux or other.

              As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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              • chris
                PosChengband Maintainer
                • Jan 2008
                • 702

                #8
                Originally posted by debo
                Hugo: did you notice that i rolled a character that has a *guaranteed opportunity* of Combat Echizen just for you????
                If you die and use the quick-start option (which I assume is OK), then the wanted unique list gets re-rolled. So do the quests, your life rating and your innate stats. I'm not sure which if any of these are critical to the comp, but it's very common for possessors to die a lot early on. I've been using the quick-start without thinking about it!

                Actually, the last Poscheng comp I was in felt like cheating knowing which quest monster was up next (from looking at dumps on the comp ladder).

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                • debo
                  Veteran
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 2402

                  #9
                  Originally posted by chris
                  If you die and use the quick-start option (which I assume is OK), then the wanted unique list gets re-rolled. So do the quests, your life rating and your innate stats. I'm not sure which if any of these are critical to the comp, but it's very common for possessors to die a lot early on. I've been using the quick-start without thinking about it!

                  Actually, the last Poscheng comp I was in felt like cheating knowing which quest monster was up next (from looking at dumps on the comp ladder).
                  I think the general opinion is that you should always restart with the original unplayed comp savefile every time, but I honestly don't care.

                  The other advantage that using quickstart has is that you get to keep your monster memory, which is great for those of us who haven't memorized the game yet

                  Hugo: After the 3.4.2 release, I went back and updated the comp announcements to use that version.
                  Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                  • Arjen
                    Adept
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 241

                    #10
                    I prefer using quickstart myself too; load your game, press yes and go! Way faster than keeping 2 savefiles and copy paste before you start the game again. I'm *lazy*.

                    And knowing everything about your char feels a bit more like cheezing than starting with a different char where you don't know your max stats, life rating and questmonsters.

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                    • debo
                      Veteran
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 2402

                      #11
                      This is officially on now -- enjoy
                      Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                      • HugoVirtuoso
                        Veteran
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1237

                        #12
                        Compo 168 activity is starting to pick up. I must say...Compo 168 is *a lot* more fun than I ever expected. You know what, the Lite Town didn't detract the fun at all!

                        *Spoiler*
                        Btw, Combat-Echizen as a Wanted Monster is still a huge incentive (despite me de-prioritizing him in the Hugo criteria for my non-compo Possessor characters)

                        And Debo...Why aren't you in this Compo?!

                        And ALSO, the Compo 168 ladder doesn't have a column for "# of Uniques Killed"?!
                        Last edited by HugoVirtuoso; January 6, 2015, 18:43.
                        My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

                        If I'm offline I'm probably in the middle of maintaining Gentoo or something-Linux or other.

                        As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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                        • debo
                          Veteran
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 2402

                          #13
                          Originally posted by HugoTheGreat2011
                          Compo 168 activity is starting to pick up. I must say...Compo 168 is *a lot* more fun than I ever expected. You know what, the Lite Town didn't detract the fun at all!

                          *Spoiler*
                          Btw, Combat-Echizen as a Wanted Monster is still a huge incentive (despite me de-prioritizing him in the Hugo criteria for my non-compo Possessor characters)

                          And Debo...Why aren't you in this Compo?!

                          And ALSO, the Compo 168 ladder doesn't have a column for "# of Uniques Killed"?!
                          Sorry, I haven't had time to tell Pav to reconfigure the ladder. Scoring is going to be messed up for a bit.
                          Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                          • HugoVirtuoso
                            Veteran
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 1237

                            #14
                            Originally posted by debo
                            Sorry, I haven't had time to tell Pav to reconfigure the ladder. Scoring is going to be messed up for a bit.
                            Heh heh...As of 8:25pm EST on Jan 6th, 2015, Chris has the most uniques dead (45 of them), yet he's in 2nd place on the Compo 168 ladder!

                            Edit:
                            *Update* - As of 2:18am EST on Jan 7th, 2015, I (Hugo) took the commanding lead on the Compo 168 ladder. I even found a Wand of Rockets already! Check out my current Compo 168 progress here!

                            Also:
                            The Compo 168 ladder shows a '0' for all players' 'max depth'.

                            Edit on 1/8/14 (East Cost evening):
                            Compo 168 ladder fixed. Thanks! We have three clvl 45+ players on this ladder...What happened to the remaining competition?!
                            Last edited by HugoVirtuoso; January 9, 2015, 02:48.
                            My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

                            If I'm offline I'm probably in the middle of maintaining Gentoo or something-Linux or other.

                            As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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                            • wobbly
                              Prophet
                              • May 2012
                              • 2631

                              #15
                              I think I might join-in on this silliness when I get a bit of free time. I have not played a possesser yet, so I'm not even sure what keys to press to possess & what not. If someone doesn't mind giving a quick summary on the basics? I'll just work out what forms are good by trial & error & dying, more fun that way.

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