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  • debo
    Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 2402

    Comp 162

    Comp 162 will be Hellband (sorry Therem -- we'll make Neoband work for a future comp.)



    Feedback on savefile welcome -- there are still 16ish hours to go until comp 161 wraps.

    glhf!
    Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'
  • Therem Harth
    Knight
    • Jan 2008
    • 926

    #2
    No problem debo, Neoband needs more work anyway.

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    • Gorbad
      Apprentice
      • Sep 2008
      • 74

      #3
      Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but I can't seem to open the savefile on Windows.

      HellBand 0.8.7 - Check
      Savefile in ./lib/save - Check
      Load File -> 162 - Fail, parse error with 'unable to read inventory'
      Rename File -> 162.dpp -> Same failure
      Create new save - works filesize seems similar
      Load created save - works

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      • debo
        Veteran
        • Oct 2011
        • 2402

        #4
        Originally posted by Gorbad
        Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but I can't seem to open the savefile on Windows.

        HellBand 0.8.7 - Check
        Savefile in ./lib/save - Check
        Load File -> 162 - Fail, parse error with 'unable to read inventory'
        Rename File -> 162.dpp -> Same failure
        Create new save - works filesize seems similar
        Load created save - works
        Hmmn. I created the savefile in OSX, but that shouldn't matter. How does the windows port load files? Is there a 'File -> Open' or 'File -> Import' dropdown menu, or is it all done in the app?

        if it's the latter, you may need to rename the file to some convention that the game uses.
        Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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        • Gorbad
          Apprentice
          • Sep 2008
          • 74

          #5
          Originally posted by debo
          Hmmn. I created the savefile in OSX, but that shouldn't matter. How does the windows port load files? Is there a 'File -> Open' or 'File -> Import' dropdown menu, or is it all done in the app?

          if it's the latter, you may need to rename the file to some convention that the game uses.
          The method is 'Load Player Profile', and looks to load a .dpp file. And I tried renaming to a a .dpp extension. Perhaps the name of the Character should be in the filename? (SirFlood.dpp? Sir_Flood,dpp? Flood.dpp? SirFlo~1.dpp?)

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          • HugoVirtuoso
            Veteran
            • Jan 2012
            • 1237

            #6
            I decided to give Compo 162 a shot and you know what? I'm having the exact same problem as Gorbad, and I'm running WinXP SP3.

            How about this alternative:
            One of the players makes a Hellband 0.8.7 Sir Flood replacement from Windows AND debo confirms that it works on Macs. Then, debo makes it official?
            Last edited by HugoVirtuoso; August 29, 2014, 00:23.
            My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

            If I'm offline I'm probably in the middle of maintaining Gentoo or something-Linux or other.

            As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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            • Slinking
              Rookie
              • Oct 2013
              • 3

              #7
              I'm having the same issue with the savefile not working as well. I tried changing the extension to *.dpp but it doesn't work. I use Windows 7.

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              • debo
                Veteran
                • Oct 2011
                • 2402

                #8
                Originally posted by Gorbad
                The method is 'Load Player Profile', and looks to load a .dpp file. And I tried renaming to a a .dpp extension. Perhaps the name of the Character should be in the filename? (SirFlood.dpp? Sir_Flood,dpp? Flood.dpp? SirFlo~1.dpp?)
                If anything it would be Flood.dpp, but I doubt that would fix it. Maybe give it a try and see if that works, though.

                If anyone wants to create a savefile on Windows, I'm fine to test it here and then reboot the comp since nobody has posted yet. It was:

                Gentleman
                Human
                Nephilim
                Born under Serpens
                Rogue
                Tarot

                Points-based w/ stats:
                Str 18
                Int 19
                Wis 8
                Dex 22
                Con 16
                Cha 9

                Then finally hit = for options, select (6) Misc, change 'Generate dungeons with connected stairs' to 'No'. (This isn't a birth option in Hellband, I just did it on turn 0.)

                I'll try to get a windows VM set up for future comps so I can test junk like this beforehand, sorry.
                Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                • Gorbad
                  Apprentice
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 74

                  #9
                  As requested, a new 162 file, which works on (my) windows 7.

                  Start HellBand -> Load Player Profile -> type '162' (win shows only *.dpp files) -> Play at 6:00 am

                  For curiosity's sake I might run it through a hex editor to see the difference, but work doesn't allow me the time to analyze the Hellband source to check properly.
                  Attached Files

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                  • Slinking
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 3

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gorbad
                    As requested, a new 162 file, which works on (my) windows 7.

                    Start HellBand -> Load Player Profile -> type '162' (win shows only *.dpp files) -> Play at 6:00 am

                    For curiosity's sake I might run it through a hex editor to see the difference, but work doesn't allow me the time to analyze the Hellband source to check properly.
                    It works for me. I didn’t know you can attach files.

                    Anyways, I already created my own “Sir Flood” with the same characteristics, minus the stats and the stair option. But, for honor’s sake, I’ll use the official savefile once it’s approved.

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                    • debo
                      Veteran
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 2402

                      #11
                      lol, now I get the same error with Gorbad's savefile on OSX that you guys were getting on windows.

                      I actually don't care enough to figure out what's going on, but I know in comp126 Nick made one savefile that seemed to work for everyone.

                      I'm just going to pack both savefiles into a zip file and people can choose the one they want, I doubt the initial seed will make a huge enough difference to affect who wins anyhow.

                      Thanks for cooking this up so quickly, Gorbad.

                      Edit: OK I updated the competition page with a 'savefile pack'. I also bumped the end date by 2 days to compensate for all the silliness.

                      Thanks for the help everyone! glhf
                      Last edited by debo; August 29, 2014, 07:21.
                      Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                      • ranger jeff
                        Apprentice
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 78

                        #12
                        So.... why only 3 participants so far???

                        Not a fewest turns race, so even if you're unfamiliar with the variant you can take your time. Monster knowledge would be helpful... but many things are pretty Vanilla. Nice work done by the author on the details! Pretty polished, if not perfectly balanced/complete yet.

                        And, what's the Anti-magic amulet do? Improve my saves? No spoilers for Hellband so kinda on my own here. Edit: well it prevents me from spellcasting, so I guess for warriors only...

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                        • Derakon
                          Prophet
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9022

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ranger jeff
                          And, what's the Anti-magic amulet do? Improve my saves? No spoilers for Hellband so kinda on my own here. Edit: well it prevents me from spellcasting, so I guess for warriors only...
                          If it's the same as ZAngband and its various descendants, then it sets your saving throw to a minimum of 95%, but prevents spellcasting. A godsend for non-magical classes, who generally have lousy saves. Not so helpful for the casters.

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                          • debo
                            Veteran
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 2402

                            #14
                            Congrats to ranger jeff for winning the comp! Thanks to our other 3 participants as well

                            I'm curious why Hellband draws so few competitors. It seems pretty well put-together as a variant.
                            Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                            • HallucinationMushroom
                              Knight
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 785

                              #15
                              Hellband is awesome! I really enjoyed playing through it a few years ago. It has this strange curve of hard/easy/hard/easy/hard. Same with loot drops. Glut/none/some. And atmosphere. But, the reason *I* don't play competitions is I want to play *my* character. I dunno, something about loading up the same character as everyone else makes me feel *icky*.

                              Also, between you and Nick, so masochisitc. Much pain. Ouch.
                              You are on something strange

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