I've been playing the Android port mostly. And one of the options is NPP 0.41...

[Pete Mack]

My God. That was traumatic. I thought I could sneak past a cave-dweller pit. But suddenly greater titans started appearing from out of nowhere! I phased, and one of them followed and confused me in the same turn. Say what? Oh no, they have TELE_TO, NPP-style! Yikes!!!

Fortunately I remembered that in NPP a Staff of Teleport is non-optional if you dont have rConf. And yes, I mean rConf, not modern V's wimpy pConf, and I got out of Dodge.

PS: Nick, bring back bronze dragons! (And the equivalent dragonscale armor.)

[Pete Mack]

Diego--
Did even NPP 0.4.1 get harder with time? Of course it's just as likely that I forgot the nightmarish humanoid pits and the paratroop Greater Titans. I was particularly surprised by pStun not actually providing protection from (grand) master mystics.

[Cuboideb]

Monsters in NPP really follow the player around corners. Ghosts have their own flow to get out of vaults. LOS is symmetric. In later versions the big D's can cast ball spells.

I think I will include NPP 0.5.4 in the port. It has the new terrain types from U and many ui improvements from V 3.0.6 to 3.1.2. It also has other things like infinite stock of WoR and the [ ] commands.

Most winners in the ladder are from NPP 0.4 and 0.5 so I think it will be fine.

[Pete Mack]

I don't know in which release monsters got absolutely nuts. But yeah, the first terrain release was indeed my favorite. V still has one big, big feature missing in others: runeID. Even partial rune ID would be fine with regular ID for consumables. (V needed to get rid of catastrophic items like !Ruination and ?Curse weapon--let alone !Death-- before eliminating ID entirely.)

[Cuboideb]

I will remove those 4 items. Too unfair. I'll keep the light_curse items anyway.

[Pete Mack]

There are some more. !Detonations,?curse weapon. Obligatory sticky curse items are pointless in V after the first one of any flavor found, since at that point the curse rune is known (and heavy or permanent curse share the same rune in V, just as level 1, 2, or 3.) V curses work differently for a reason.

[Pete Mack]

Whew, that was close. Evil Iggy kept coming back while I made my way across the dungeon to an unidentified ring at DL 84. Wham! Plasma bolt! Wham! Ice bolt! He knocked me down below 300 twice, once catching me off guard at +4 speed. I used up all my heal. But I finally made it to the ring: Speed +7! Base speed is now 11, which means I am as fast as most monsters when hasted. (NPP has a ton of monsters above +10 speed, far more than V.) That said, I now have problem: I'd been swapping a ring of rNether and Damage (now up to +17--one place NPP is generous.) With speed and CON, swapping becomes problematic.

[Pete Mack]

I lost that game to save file corruption, alas. So I started a new one in 0.5.4, otherwise the same. And I am having a brutal time of it. Down to DL 33, CL 26, and I still
* have no free action
* have no extra damage beyond the weapon.
* am using a (+4,+6) sling. Fortunately the sling gets extra damage and now, finally, an extra shot. But still the total damage is pretty low.
* have pieced together rBase (from rings, amulet)
* have found no artifacts, not even the Phial.
And I recently lost a quest after my only TO got destroyed by an electricity vortex.

[Cuboideb]

I have a quest to kill 15 black Ds... with a clvl 30 character and less than 200HP

Pete, are you comfortable with the current way to select items in stores? Im tempted to change it to command first, then selection. Like V

[Pete Mack]

It took some getting used to. V is actually a hybrid, where you can pick the object first or second. I think this is a good model.

[Cuboideb]

Please update the app. This is my attempt to bring the hybrid item selection to NPP

[Pete Mack]

@Cuboideb--
What kind of archery damage can you do? Black D is extremely limited in breath damage, between the armor reduction of 1/2 and NPP's addition of !rAcid. The max damage is 1/18 nominal in this way, or 1/6 with just armor--either 15HP or 50HP. The latter is problematic with just !CCW. But the former is harmless.

I'll update.

[Cuboideb]

I survived the quest! I used a combination of melee and sling (HE brigand). I had just a bunch of !RAcid, so my main strategy was to use a staff of speed, then dropping it along with the scrolls of recharging and WoR.
I had to use TO several times and my HP went to 0 once.
Completed the quest, got a light crossbow of accuracy...
When you get a quest for D's, it's time to stop taking quests!

[Pete Mack]

NPP still uses v 3.0 model for pricing, but even with that a bow of accuracy isn't worth much. I don't understand how NPP calculates quest value.