You see Power Dragon Scale Mail...

[PowerWyrm]

... the Power Dragon Scale Mail was really a monster! Emperor Mimic casts a bolt of frost...

Latest PWMAngband game at 2000ft. Dream lasted three seconds...

[Thraalbee]

That is mean! I like it :-)

[Therem Harth]

Oh awesome. That is what mimics should be like - what code did you change to get that? I want to steal it for Neoband.

[HugoVirtuoso]

PosChengband needs an super-powered monster like this.

[Avenger]

Heh. I did once find a real PDSM at 1000 feet dropped by a dark elven... something or other. Warlock or Lord or Priest, maybe. But that was over on Berendol's variant, and I don't think his was quite as crazy as yours seems to be - although I do hope you've incorporated some of his stuff, like those Mighty Dragon Scale Mails.

How big's your active community over there, PowerWyrm?

I may have to get back into MAngband - or the active variants, at least.

Edit: o_O are you slowing down time as HP gets low? How does that work with parties? Or multiple unallied players?

[HugoVirtuoso]

I did find a PDSM in PosChengband during a Chaos-Warrior compo two years ago only for it to get destroyed by a Giant slug. So aggravating!

[Avenger]

Er? PDSM doesn't ignore acid? That seems like a rather incredible oversight.

[HugoVirtuoso]

Apparently, that PDSM got "crushed" by that Giant slug. No idea why that should happen in the first place, especially in PosChengband. Probably an incredible oversight on Chris's part.

[Derakon]

Monsters crushing objects do the same thing that the old 'k' destroy command did, so they work on everything except artifacts. Maybe these days monsters should squelch items instead?

[wobbly]

Apparently, that PDSM got "crushed" by that Giant slug. No idea why that should happen in the first place, especially in PosChengband. Probably an incredible oversight on Chris's part.

I too am surprised. Missing the perfect opportunity for the slug to absorb the PDSM. He must of just missed it.

[PowerWyrm]

Apparently, that PDSM got "crushed" by that Giant slug. No idea why that should happen in the first place, especially in PosChengband. Probably an incredible oversight on Chris's part.

Happens with any monster with the KILL_ITEM flag.

name:626:Giant slug
base:worm
color:u
info:100:60:10:30:25
power:6:1:60:3696:26:25
blow:BITE:ACID:2d4
blow:BITE:ACID:2d6
flags:WEIRD_MIND | PWMANG_BASE
flags:DROP_CORPSE
flags:[B]KILL_ITEM[/B] | KILL_BODY
flags:WILD_ALL
spell-freq:10
spells:BR_ACID
desc:It is slowly making its way towards you, eating everything in its path...

[PowerWyrm]

Oh awesome. That is what mimics should be like - what code did you change to get that? I want to steal it for Neoband.

I simply added a new monster base for random mimics:

name:random mimic
glyph:x
pain:1
flags:COLD_BLOOD | EMPTY_MIND | UNAWARE | PWMANG_BASE
flags:NEVER_MOVE
flags:NO_FEAR | NO_CONF | NO_SLEEP
flags:FORCE_SLEEP | ATTR_CLEAR
spells:BLIND | CONF | SCARE
spells:BO_COLD | BO_FIRE
desc:Random Mimic

Then some monster entries: Lesser mimic (light green), Mimic (green), Greater mimic (light blue), Ultimate mimic (blue), Emperor Mimic (purple, unique). Each of these can mimic an object of their corresponding color. Emperor Mimic is from TomeNET, but it's probably based on another variant (it's flagged as BASEANGBAND in TomeNET though).

name:733:Emperor Mimic
base:random mimic
color:v
info:120:2500:30:72:0
power:40:3:100:8471250:1769:2000
blow:HIT:POISON:5d5
blow:HIT:POISON:5d5
blow:HIT:POISON:5d5
blow:HIT:POISON:5d5
flags:UNIQUE
flags:IM_ACID | IM_FIRE | IM_ELEC | IM_COLD
flags:IM_POIS
spell-freq:2
spells:BRAIN_SMASH | CAUSE_3 | CAUSE_4 | FORGET | SHRIEK
spells:TRAPS
spells:BA_ACID | BA_COLD | BA_ELEC | BA_FIRE
spells:S_KIN | S_MONSTER
desc:A strange creature that disguises itself as an object to lure unsuspecting
desc: adventurers within reach of its venomous claws.

To activate them, only a simple piece of code is needed in place_monster():

    /* Hack -- random mimics */
    if (new_mon->race->base == lookup_monster_base("random mimic"))
    {
        /* Random symbol from object set */
        while (1)
        {
            /* Select a random object */
            new_mon->mimicked_k_idx = randint0(z_info->k_max - 1) + 1;

            kind = &k_info[new_mon->mimicked_k_idx];

            /* Skip non-entries */
            if (!kind->name) continue;

            /* Skip empty entries */
            if (!kind->d_attr || !kind->d_char) continue;

            /* Skip insta arts! */
            if (kf_has(kind->kind_flags, KF_INSTA_ART) || kf_has(kind->kind_flags, KF_QUEST_ART))
                continue;

            /* Force race attr */
            if (kind->d_attr != new_mon->race->d_attr) continue;

            /* Success */
            break;
        }
    }

    /* Hack -- object mimics */
    else if (new_mon->race->mimic_kinds)
    {
        kind =... (code from V)
    }

    /* Make mimics start mimicking */
    if (kind)
    {
        code from V...
    }

[PowerWyrm]

PosChengband needs an super-powered monster like this.

I had the idea that PosChengband had all monsters from all variants, seeems strange there's no Emperor Mimic.

[PowerWyrm]

Heh. I did once find a real PDSM at 1000 feet dropped by a dark elven... something or other. Warlock or Lord or Priest, maybe. But that was over on Berendol's variant, and I don't think his was quite as crazy as yours seems to be - although I do hope you've incorporated some of his stuff, like those Mighty Dragon Scale Mails.

How big's your active community over there, PowerWyrm?

I may have to get back into MAngband - or the active variants, at least.

Edit: o_O are you slowing down time as HP gets low? How does that work with parties? Or multiple unallied players?

Currently there's a problem with MAngband server, so there's not much activity there. Even more considering that dev has pretty much stopped.

And yes, a feature from the limbo MAngband 1.2 was to add time bubbles so that you could get time slowdown when you're at critical HPs (and time speedup when resting or running). How it works is simple: the bubbles are chain-linked, everything in LOS use the slowest time factor. However I don't like that feature and I always turn it off by setting low hitpoint threshold to 0, which turns off the slowdown but still allows fast resting and running. Even more now that PWMAngband can be played in turn-based mode...

[Avenger]

That's really cool. First time it happened I thought I was just lagging really badly - but then so was the monster that was trying to kill me =P

I'm mostly playing PosCheng atm, but MAngband has always been my true home as far as variants go. I'd love to see you work out whatever issues you're having with the server and build a community back up.

I suppose I could go play TomeNet, but the points-based levelling system they have over there doesn't really work well for me.