Any tips for a newbie?

[Pete Mack]

Yeah but you pay for it by being a wimp not really good at anything for a considerable chunk of the game. I still haven't figured out how to survive as a ranger. Now that I've won a bunch as mage and rogue and a few warriors and (hopefully soon) as a priest, I guess it's time for ranger.

They used to be easier, since it was easy to enchant the starting bow to (+7,+7). But it really isn't hard to get to Cl 20 as any half-casting class. At that point all it takes is a longbow of Power or the like.

[Bogatyr]

@derakon-Undead pits was just the most obvious answer. Between *Destruction* AND branded ammo AND 3 shots AND 5 distinct buffing spells AND Rune of protection, high level rangers are just ridiculous. Sure rogue has the ammo, the buffing, and godlike stealth, but that doesn't come close to the same degree of dominating the environment

Yeah but you pay for it by being a wimp not really good at anything for a considerable chunk of the game. I still haven't figured out how to survive as a ranger. Now that I've won a bunch as mage and rogue and a few warriors and (hopefully soon) as a priest, I guess it's time for ranger.

[Pete Mack]

And demon pits, and safely getting rid of any monster or group of monsters you don't want to fight, without having to get anywhere close to them. Phase away from Morgoth's summons, teleport Morgoth himself away, then Destruct the summons. That's standard operating procedure for basically all of my fights, but usually I have to carefully ration my use of Destruction because I only have it in scroll (and maybe staff) form. Being able to cast it freely is huge.

@derakon-Undead pits was just the most obvious answer. Between *Destruction* AND branded ammo AND 3 shots AND 5 distinct buffing spells AND Rune of protection, high level rangers are just ridiculous. Sure rogue has the ammo, the buffing, and godlike stealth, but that doesn't come close to the same degree of dominating the environment

[Derakon]

Undead pits.

And demon pits, and safely getting rid of any monster or group of monsters you don't want to fight, without having to get anywhere close to them. Phase away from Morgoth's summons, teleport Morgoth himself away, then Destruct the summons. That's standard operating procedure for basically all of my fights, but usually I have to carefully ration my use of Destruction because I only have it in scroll (and maybe staff) form. Being able to cast it freely is huge.

[Pete Mack]

Undead pits.

[Werbaer]

Kelek has the spell for mages and *Rangers*. Just one more way rangers are unbalanced.

Why should a ranger use Kelek's?

Bedlam is always useless.

Destruction at 5% fail (or more) is useless as a one-turn escape.

For fighting, rangers need long distance line of sight. They want open areas (or long straight corridors against summoners) so they can shoot from range.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Kelek has the spell for mages and *Rangers*. Just one more way rangers are unbalanced.

Oh, yes, you are right. I forgot about that, since my rangers never bother to carry Kelek's and instead use the scroll.

[Pete Mack]

In addition to a scroll it is a spell available to mages and priests. Kelek's has the mage spell.

Kelek has the spell for mages and *Rangers*. Just one more way rangers are unbalanced.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Hey Pete, in your comment on the ladder you said "you've got Keleck so you don't need to carry *destruction*" is that a spellbook? Don't think I've got it.

In addition to a scroll it is a spell available to mages and priests. Kelek's has the mage spell.

[Pete Mack]

For Umbar, maybe. +2 CON in the bow slot can be helpful, tho the damage isn't as good as a good ego bow. For Razorback, I have no idea

[robbiodobbio]

Hey Pete, in your comment on the ladder you said "you've got Keleck so you don't need to carry *destruction*" is that a spellbook? Don't think I've got it.

[robbiodobbio]

I've found Razorback and Crossbow of Umbar but both aggravate monsters, should I save them for the Sauron/Morgoth battle?

[Bogatyr]

Pillar dancing and LOS abuse other than what you can get for free just are too much trouble except for very weak characters.

Different strokes. Mages are weak for a looooooong time, and sometimes these are the only way to take out strong opponents. For a reasonably high level mage with enough mana, setting up a hockey-stick or a pseudo-destructed area is no problem, and even fun to experiment with fighting & phasing around in.

[Pete Mack]

Like I said, "=q"

[robbiodobbio]

= will take you to option menu. Q will take you to quality squelch menu.

Ok, but what do I have to toggle in the menu?