improvement idea for v4

[Tibarius]

yeah

Yeah - i was not totally accurate about the example. because i had the Feeling i haven't understood what you were saying. I guess we agree that the 2nd type of naming and using Options is the easier to understand way.

[Timo Pietilä]

I am sorry, i do not understand you Timo.

Do you say it is easier to read:
Disable connected stairs: Disabled

instead of:
Generate connected stairs: No

???

Opposite of that. And BTW you just made the error I was talking about:

Disable connected stairs: Disabled
equals
Generate connected stairs: yes

[Tibarius]

re: disableing

I am sorry, i do not understand you Timo.

Do you say it is easier to read:
Disable connected stairs: Disabled

instead of:
Generate connected stairs: No

???

[Timo Pietilä]

I couldn't agree more.

That kind of double-negative is easier to understand than some policies where you enable something to disable something. Now disabling that policy would enable that something. Makes really easy to make mistakes when you are tired and suffer from caffeine deprivation.

Like this:

Compare yourself:
Disable Stacking Objects on the floor : Disabled
Disable generating connected stairs : Disabled
Disable showing Level Feelings : Disabled

[Magnate]

One might imagine Magnate feels the same way about you! Who shall invite whom first?

I was just going to say "well join the devteam then!" - but then I realised that my attendance for the past two years has been so poor that he might well have done and I'd have missed it.

@MattB - mi casa su casa - I look forward to meeting you soon!

[Derakon]

Well Magnate, I live just down the road from you and you've never invited me for tea! Hrrmph.

One might imagine Magnate feels the same way about you! Who shall invite whom first?

[MattB]

Much as I enjoy meeting fellow 'banders I think it will be tricky for us since we live in different countries.

Well Magnate, I live just down the road from you and you've never invited me for tea! Hrrmph.

[MattB]

While i just reported a bug in drop item for Version 3.5.1 (see seperate thread in vanilla Forum), i just thought that the birth Option naming is much harder to understand than it would be necessary because of the double-Negation in some Options.

Compare yourself:
Don't Stack Objects on the floor : no
Don't generate connected stairs : no
Don't Show Level Feelings : no

And now read this:
Stack Objects on the floor : yes
Generate connected stairs : yes
Show Level Feelings : yes

Isn't the 2nd row of Information much easier to understand?
If so, please rename this birth Options for v4.

I couldn't agree more.

[Magnate]

I have no objection against using the Forum (probably the development subforum) for Information Exchange, but since Magnate offered his help, i leave it up to him how we get in touch. Maybe he prefers Skype, or eMail, or phone, or personal Meetings (if possible from the living Locations).

Much as I enjoy meeting fellow 'banders I think it will be tricky for us since we live in different countries. That said, I have met the entire devteam by virtue of living in London, which almost everybody visits at some point.

I'm happy to write it up here on Oook as AH requested. I'd suggest you start a new thread in the relevant forum (Development, or Variants if you're choosing a variant).

If you haven't already, start with this thread and maybe also this page.

[Tibarius]

thanks again

See, i thought v4 will be vanilla Angband 4.0. Thanks for informing me, that this is not the case.

[Derakon]

Tibarius: v4 is not Angband 4.0. v4 is a confusingly-named, defunct variant in which the Angband devs messed around with ideas that were too radical for Vanilla proper. If you have feedback or suggestions for Angband 4.0, the best place for them is probably in the Development forum.

[Tibarius]

birth option names

While i just reported a bug in drop item for Version 3.5.1 (see seperate thread in vanilla Forum), i just thought that the birth Option naming is much harder to understand than it would be necessary because of the double-Negation in some Options.

Compare yourself:
Don't Stack Objects on the floor : no
Don't generate connected stairs : no
Don't Show Level Feelings : no

And now read this:
Stack Objects on the floor : yes
Generate connected stairs : yes
Show Level Feelings : yes

Isn't the 2nd row of Information much easier to understand?
If so, please rename this birth Options for v4.

[AnonymousHero]

I usually read carefully, but sometimes you just miss something or don't understand it. If i bothered you with my question, sorry and i try to read even more carefully in the future

I didn't mean it all that seriously -- it was just a little poke .

[Tibarius]

thanks Hero

I have no objection against using the Forum (probably the development subforum) for Information Exchange, but since Magnate offered his help, i leave it up to him how we get in touch. Maybe he prefers Skype, or eMail, or phone, or personal Meetings (if possible from the living Locations).

I usually read carefully, but sometimes you just miss something or don't understand it. If i bothered you with my question, sorry and i try to read even more carefully in the future

[AnonymousHero]

Thanks Magnate, very Kind of you to offer my help getting the ropes.

1. Is there a preferred way i could contact you over, so that we can talk about Problems, ideas etc?

Please do it in the forums. That way others can learn and it'll show up in searches.

2. What do you mean with "the Forum will be removed"? Does it not serve a important functionality to give Players a base where they can Exchange hints/fun stories/questions etc?

Read carefully . He's talking specifically about the "v4" forum not the other forums around here.